Results and Statistics Pages

[lepage71]

We have gotten some of the advanced race results and standings/statistics features working for the first time (see race results, standings for CTS, CUP, NBS). We'd like to know what everyone thinks about the additons (what is nice, suggestions, ideas for new stats categories, questions about abbreviations, etc.).

If no one thinks anything, we won't bother providing them in the future. Please comment!

[CR49]

I like it,but then again I always like reading stats like that.

[bover907]

I like it a lot.

What does Led L mean on the percentages page?

I really like the rating stat. Kinda like QB ratings for the NFL, lol. Could you please explain the formula used to calculate those?

[DaveO]

Lepage, you did a great job on the stats/results page. I enjoy reading the stats all the time.. Only Stat Cateogory you might wanna think of adding under the "Expanded Statistics" you have stats for DNS, DNR. etc. Why not add a stat category for percentage of times you have a sub..

[efgordon]

i have no clue how to interpet all that suff. i clicked on every button and i was still in 2nd or 3rd, so i personally think it sucks.

then again, at some point i will figure out how to operate it and it wont suck anymore.

i acually had more fun trying to find the cow page.

[DaveO]

i have no clue how to interpet all that suff. i clicked on every button and i was still in 2nd or 3rd, so i personally think it sucks.

then again, at some point i will figure out how to operate it and it wont suck anymore.

i acually had more fun trying to find the cow page.

ah dude. it all has to do with Math!! okay your in 2nd and 3rd on the columns, cuz you finished that postion in that particular series. Where as me if I look at my stats i'm way at the bottom cuz I hardly raced this year. (which will dramtically change in nbs next season if I might add. ) anyways when u click on all those different buttons look at each individual column and u will see your own personal percentages for each given category. It's like looking at a spreadsheet. Think of it that way.

[efgordon]

where is the column that represents the number of people you ticked off? can we track that on a per race basis and tally up a season total? finally, a stat category i can get behind.

[CR49]

Something that might be neat is an average finish for each style track, short track,intermediate speedway,superspeedway,road course.

[Stick77]

Something that might be neat is an average finish for each style track, short track,intermediate speedway,superspeedway,road course.

I like it, and i also agree with CR49.

[Rookiesrock]

I think these are great! Good job Pager!

[Jes Rathbun]

Great job guys I think the site is turning out great

[DaveO]

Way to go Lepage!! For adding the sub category!!!

[retroracer]

very nice,I like it.Now all we need is a weekly reporter,someone to write an article about each race.

[lepage71]

We appreciate the comments and encourage members to continue posting thoughts, suggestions, and questions.

CR49: we actually have much more than that - we have every single stat on the current points pages broken down by Intermediate Speedways, Road Courses, Short Tracks, and Super Speedways. The only problem right now is implementation; it's just not practical to compile that data each and every week. That means 5 pages x 5 breakdowns (one overall breakdown plus four categorical breakdowns) = 25 pages. Until we figure out something more efficient for each week, it's going to be difficult to present that data. However, if it's a popular idea, we can probably present that information from the completed 2007 CUP AND NBS seasons - we only need to run those through ONCE as opposed to week after week.

Here are explanations for several stat types:

Cumulative / Adjusted Averages

Defecit - a driver's average laps finished behind the leader, 0.00 is the highest possible value and means you have completed every lap during a season

Rating - a "momentum" or "power" measure for each race, incorporating four variables: 1) starting position, 2) finishing position, 3) percentage of laps completed, and 4) percentage of laps led

For each variable, you receive a percentage ranging from close to 0 (0.05, for instance), depending on the field size, to 1 (perfection). These four measures are then multipled by 100 and then multiplied by the field size divided by the average field size for the season. Thus, your rating in past races actually changes as we progress forward during the season. Also note: when you are scored as "Did Not Race" in the race results, the idea is that missing an event hurts your momentum and you receive 0 points.

In a perfect race, the highest possible rating is 100 (before multiplying by the field size divided by the average field size). A single race rating of 100 means that you started on the pole, won the race, completed every lap (obviously), and led every lap - extremely rare. However, you can actually receive a rating higher than 100 if that race involved a particularly large field. Suppose the average field size during the season was 10 and you accomplished this magnificent feat in a field of 25; your rating would be 25/10 x 100 = 250.

In general, anytime you're close to 100 in race, you've done very well. I think that, by looking at the standings, over the long term, it is exceedingly difficult to maintain a rating above the low-70s range. If you inspect closely, a few drivers have ratings that lead the entire league even though they've only done a few races; this reflects the long-term difficult of maintaining high averages. In case anyone is curious, the highest rating that I have ever seen in one race is DaveO in 2007 CUP at Michigan - 112.84.

Percentages

Gain - percentage of races where a driver advances from the starting grid

Lose - percentage of races where a driver loses from the starting grid

Leader - percentage of laps where a driver is the leader

Laps - percentage of possible laps completed by a driver, discounting missed events, DNR, DNS, etc.

Led 1 - percentage of races where a driver led at least one lap

Ld Lap - this was originally Lead L as bover mentioned, percentage of races where a driver finished on the lead lap (or completed every lap)

There are various other stats, especially for Expanded Statistics and Percentages, that we do not have posted due to space restrictions. Keep in mind that we can automatically compile anything (that is recorded by the race results) that someone suggests, so if there are some stats that we did not think about we would be glad to hear about them.

[DaveO]

[ it is exceedingly difficult to maintain a rating above the low-70s range. If you inspect closely, a few drivers have ratings that lead the entire league even though they've only done a few races; this reflects the long-term difficult of maintaining high averages. In case anyone is curious, the highest rating that I have ever seen in one race is DaveO in 2007 CUP at Michigan - 112.84.

Thanks lepage for pointing that out, Thats really cool, and I'm also very humbled at the same time cuz I didn't compete (race) alot last season.. I never knew I had the highest rating for a race.

[Petty43]

I personally enjoy the stats it really shows a driver what they are doing or what they are not doing. Where they are good, where they need improvements. I like the idea of a race rundown, a commentary on the race. Also, from a post a way back i liked the idea what lepage said of maybe being able to click on a particular driver to get some stats or something. Also i would like to see NAO on the Teams and on the CTS Driver page. YGM gets one and NAO doesnt? Are you kidding? (As Rookie says Insert laugh here)

[bover907]

Agreed, we all love the race run-down. (That is, a news article about each race). The problem is, viewing the replay, asking a driver or two to comment, or whathaveyou.... Then writing the article, Takes at least an all-nighter to get done. I tried it two seasons ago, when lepage quit writing race recaps and had asked for help. I can tell you that even though I got many compliments, and appreciated all of them, it took me like 3 or 4 weeks to get burned out on it. It's just a lot of time for a lot of us family men to invest.

Anyone who can do it on a steady basis, My hats off to ya.